Ian Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 three cheap and cheerful examples of silver shilling (twelve pence) tokens issued 1811 during the reign and `madness' of King George III. The first is a Birmingham workhouse token the second is a token from Sheffield the third is from Bristol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Very nice, is this a new area of collecting for you? Often thought of collecting some of these myself but so far have been able to resist. Have you visited this site http://issuu.com/landsum/docs/stc?e=2565297/3024483 ? I have a lot of conder tokens & early 18th century token copper pennies(including workhouse), I should make an effort to take some pictures & post them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Thanks for the link. That is a fantastic resource! I've been using Seaby for my reference but Dalton is king. Until this week I only had five examples of silver shilling and six pence tokens. I bought these three examples as they were too good to miss for the price. I got lucky. I do have a small collection of the copper `conders' (mainly scottish ones) ....i'm a sucker for anything depicting castles, churches, cathedrals,....and ships, etc etc. I've always been interested in these items and the history / social circumstances which saw their introduction. However my acquisition of these has been more as a result of `magpie-itis' than being a determined collector of these pieces. It would be great if you did manage to find the time to take pictures /scans of your copper tokens. I'd really love to see them Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Neat! I seldom ever see the silver tokens of the era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Wow! I had no idea that silver tokens like this were produced in England. Very cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarotta Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Another fascinating series, Ian. You are indefatigable. I have a silver bank token from Ireland from 1811. I had no idea that there were some many similar series out there. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Hi Michael. It's good to hear from you! Hope you are well, and thriving? ........your mention of ireland triggered memory that I have a few different denomination Irish bank tokens. Here's one for six shillings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Cheltenham shilling (Gloucestershire) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Dublin (Anonymous) AR Shilling Token 24mm. 4.34g. King's Recovery (Private mint) Obverse: Woman placing crown on plinth, inscribed 'HEALTH/ TO THE/ KING'. - Obverse legend: PRO BONO PUBLICO Reverse: Aesculapius’ serpent around ancient brazier, weight and fineness 2 DWT – 20 GS with Sterling/ 1804 in exergue. reverse legend: PUBLIC HAPPINESS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I'm surprised to see than an anon. silver token would circulate! But then again, IIRC, Britain was still on a bimetallic standard at the time, so I suppose if the weight is good, then all was well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 The 1804 piece was struck to facilitate trade during a period when `coin of the realm' was very much in short supply and new coinage simply was not being struck due directly to King George III's poor state of mental health. The piece was struck from `good siller', although god alone knows where they got the actual silver from. That same year in England they were using Spanish colonial silver pieces of eight to strike Bank dollars (aka 5 shillings) with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Northumberland and Durham silver shilling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 not a shilling, but a sixpence (aka a `tanner'). The little brother of the Birmingham Workhouse shilling. This one is dated 1812.....wasn't Napoleon was getting his ass whipped in Russia at that time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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