teachmind Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thank you for everyone that is accepying me for who I am. I showed a couple of kids some pictures off my phone just to check if they see what I do. Shes 12 and it was the second time I have met her and dose not know that I collect coins. Out of all the characters she siad the to me this word was everything to me and, Arial and I said yes the little mermaid. This is not that coin but I have posted it already but did not point her out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corina Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 yes there is a photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I have looked at all your posts and have absolutely no clue what you are trying to 'teach' us to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 sorry about that its just difficult to show what I see, the reason being. wait let me tell you first what I am seeing. I am seeing Hundreds of other designs on every single coin made by a press, and makes it difficult to capture that one single image. all designs are piled up on top of each other and the layouts for each coin are made to cover up most of the markings from other designs or other coins(including anything else the mint makes with the same press machine) the layouts from each design are almost perfect to cover all markings that are not suppose to be on coin beside what its suppose to be on a coin. Now that I know, I can see what I call Picteals. Images from other coins of any denomination(whatever has been stuck with the press the coin was struck with that's what can be on your coins). Now comes my theory on how all that is possible but will explain after I can prove that this is true(Picteals)...... P.S. VERY HAAAARD to do AHHHHHH.....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Every coin has new dies made, the press itself does not make the impression in the planchet but the pressure applied to hardened steel dies(which are changed for new ones when worn), see picture from http://www.coinnews.net/2013/04/03/u-s-mint-at-san-francisco-preparing-coin-blanks/ Notice the substantial amount of steel behind each & every die. You might find this of interest. http://www.coinnews.net/2013/09/13/how-the-philadelphia-mint-makes-hubs-and-dies-to-produce-coins/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 You might find this on "Ghosting" of interest http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,33199.0.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 ok but dont you know when something is struck with lots of pressure and when it strikes the planchet, and that whatever design is being created with the die.....wait just think of the planchet is striking the die witch it actually is(the planchet is being forced into the die sending waves down through the die and on to the press depending on how much pressure = distance x the use over the years with same design). you will get some kind of answer for that problem or equation, dont think that with all that power and energy is going to stand still or not create anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 when a die is weak and about to break that is its weakest point allowing for the waves or vibrations travel through the die on to the press also thats why a die becomes cracked or broken, caused by those waves. they do not fix this problem because from the first strike it will leave some kind of impression on the press and would be impossible to get a perfect coin but thats what the layouts of each design are for to cover them up by following the lines. to get so many designs that have been made already you rotate the coin to find that perfect image you want(i am sure there are guidelines on to creating a design for your coins, medals and ect. there is someone that knows about it because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 speed+distance(pressure)=? of waves/vibrations+hardness(metal)= the reach of those vibrations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 ok but dont you know when something is struck with lots of pressure and when it strikes the planchet, and that whatever design is being created with the die............... dont think that with all that power and energy is going to stand still or not create anything. The pressure & energy does create something.........that being the metal in the blank being compressed and flowing into the design on the dies.....the pressure & hold time is precisely controlled to allow the full design to be imparted to the blanks without causing any squeeze....so a coin is created from that pressure & energy. " the blanks have again been hardened and must now be softened (heated) to controlled temperatures, approximately 1400 degrees Fahrenheit, changing their crystal structure to a softer state. The annealing ensures that the blanks have reached a coinable hardness so that they can be stuck to capture the full relief of the designs of the working dies. This process prolongs the life of the coining dies by ensuring well-struck coins with lower striking pressures. The blanks are then "frozen" into that state by a water quench bath" The hardened die has a substantial amount of steel behind it, typically 3 inches, so I doubt any of the die design is transferred back to the press and even if that were to happen I doubt that any distortion would then be transferred back through another 3 inch die to the next coins being made on that press. As to coin designers having guidelines to only produce designs which would hide all the previous designs struck on the press.....that would have to be one of the best keep secrets and would make the designing of new coins one of the most difficult tasks imaginable, if not outright impossible. Sorry to be so negative. EDIT The softened blank absorbs the initial pressure by being distorted to match the designs on the dies. When it exactly matches the design on the dies the pressure is applied equally across both dies. The flat ends of each die having the pressure applied to them, which is now transmitted through the coin, the design on the coin has no effect on either flat end of the dies as the design on the coin exactly matches the design in the die. The design has no more effect than a flat blank between two flat dies would, there is no localized pressure points to cause press distortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 ok i see that is going to be the answer, so i wont get nowhere. ok answer me this why are the designs of each layout are to cover up others. i say this because the lines all line up from eachother, for example i could find the same shapes that are on a my ike dollar of a well any design... p.s. what do you think causes the die to break or crack? what is the term or terms that are causing such things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 here is simple way of thinking about the flow of the vibrations, get a ball and throw it towards a wall and see what happens. the dies are steel but with the speeds and power the press gives, and add all the years of use. i have to ask the question do they re-use and re-design worn dies? because if they did there will be imprints of that design on the re-used die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 you guys that created this equation did not complete it as you are missing this part that i speak of. there are far more clear and straight foward answers to questions and markings to those about coins being struck with a press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circus Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The dies are made new, from raw stock not reused worn damaged dies are cancelled damaged so they can't be re done and used again. Scrapped they are not used for years. Thier life span of useful minting is short at the rate they are used to upto 750 coins per minute. http://federalnewsradio.com/technology/2014/08/saving-money-by-making-money-one-engineers-quest-saves-millions-at-the-us-mint/ The above should help some. You cant be mixing the physical of making dies with your metaphysical vibrations mumbo jumbo that has no bearing on the steps used in the making of coins. Do a goolge search for the tv program modern marvels they did one on the mints process of die and coin production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 thank you for all members replies and information. Mumbo jumbo is what we use to make a problem then solve it. CREATE + SOLVE = RESULTS, so its not really my metaphysical whatever you call it as I did not create it or make it up. It dose exists, it has to or we would all be standing in one spot staring at one another. And also when I add of what I am speaking of to the equation, it gives a better understanding and different results than what you believe to be the answer. even giving an answer to those you do not understand, argue about and cant answer questions that are ask about a coin. p.s. the mint or company is trying to cover it up to give a higher quality product, you think they are going to tell you....hahaha there is no way of that happening. I know for a fact that they work very hard on each of these designs cause it cant be anything else but what is on the coins, so they have to search for a design with in these guidelines. There is nothing wrong what they are doing its just you don't want to have a $100 image on a quarter or markings of foreign coins on U.S. coins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Scrapped they are not used for years. Thier life span of useful minting is short. i was speaking of the press not the die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 what caused a die to crack or break. if answer is from use and worn, if it is worn then i say the die shows it dose have some kind of effect on die when being in use that also shows. i bet if you get a worn die and you were to apply acid on the oppisite end you will see the dies imprints. maybe a broken die would be better or cutting it down the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 what caused a die to crack or break. if answer is from use and worn, if it is worn then i say the die shows it dose have some kind of effect on die when being in use that also shows. i bet if you get a worn die and you were to apply acid on the oppisite end you will see the dies imprints. maybe a broken die would be better or cutting it down the middle. A die, like any object, can only take so much stress before it fails. That said, dies are made of pretty strong alloys to withstand the high and constant pressure placed on them when striking planchets. As for the latter portion of your post - I'm sure there are plenty of structural engineers who'd beg to differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 ok bring these structural engineers I would like to have a chat with one or all, where can I find such person? and thank you for that comment what I was looking for as an answer was the vibrations from the force by the strike that is given to a blank planchet then from the strike of other side which has to be reverse and observe that is applied the same pressure and timing so it makes = to make both sides the same, but the vibrations have some destination to go towards and since its = to the only way it will go is in the same direction it came from causing over time or use the vibrations cause it to break or crack. p.s. I am not familiar with any type of physics or spelling correct. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 what you are about to read is not true but it is only what I think so you may not understand it. but do please read. actually I want a chance to chat with the mint owner of company(mint) there is of some important matter I would like to mention to them and ask a few questions because I do not want to interfere with there process if I am already doing so. if I am right about what I am claiming. I say no one knows because no one is suppose to know. if everything stay the same. I see something's are not correct and very complicated to teach or to learn. there is a lot of questions that seem to have no answer to and some you don't understand. for example the reverse side of a 1973 cent I think its still a mystery till this day but with my method it can explain it just need to find out which design or designs best fits.......also machine doubling or any doubling except for the ones like the 69's and 55' that the dies are created like that on purpose(to me that's what makes scene). can anyone explain how they are created. oh yeah what I was saying about the doubles it is caused by one single strike and it can also be more than doubled as far as I can see. I actually see a pileup of the word liberty which have no space between each letter meaning between each letter dose not reach the surface of the die. I think its caused by the profile and pressure given to the strike and its not just the word liberty. also thinking it is why there is a low quantity of doubles especially on the smaller coins, maybe that's why the 55 and 69 types were created????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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