alexbq2 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 May be we can have a 'Show and Tell' thread here. I'm hoping it may provide the context in which members could present and discuss items that interest them. For instance, I have just acquired another Alexander 3 coronation token. This one was a bit illusive. I'm happy to have finally acquired it. There are quite a few coronation tokens of Alexander the 3rd. I'm not sure why they are so numerous. Seems that his coronation was heavily promoted, or perhaps was very popular. I believe that even the A3 coronation rouble is more common that the subsequent N2 coin. The above is one of the more impressive looking tokens (IMHO). It is I believe made of nickel. There is another official looking coronation token that was issued in silver and in copper: Apart from these, there is a multitude of brass tokens that were "private" issue. I'm not sure how many varieties exist, they were originally silvered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 May be we can have a 'Show and Tell' thread here. I'm hoping it may provide the context in which members could present and discuss items that interest them. For instance, I have just acquired another Alexander 3 coronation token. This one was a bit illusive. I'm happy to have finally acquired it. There are quite a few coronation tokens of Alexander the 3rd. I'm not sure why they are so numerous. Seems that his coronation was heavily promoted, or perhaps was very popular. I believe that even the A3 coronation rouble is more common that the subsequent N2 coin. The above is one of the more impressive looking tokens (IMHO). It is I believe made of nickel. There is another official looking coronation token that was issued in silver and in copper: Apart from these, there is a multitude of brass tokens that were "private" issue. I'm not sure how many varieties exist, they were originally silvered. Very nice group of tokens. They're all in terrific shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 The ones you call "official looking" are official. I hardly ever see them in copper. Was it hard to find? According to Rudenko's book reference, the copper ones were not struck for the ceremony, but to satisfy the demand from public (more silver ones too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 The ones you call "official looking" are official. I hardly ever see them in copper. Was it hard to find? According to Rudenko's book reference, the copper ones were not struck for the ceremony, but to satisfy the demand from public (more silver ones too) You have the Rudenko's book! I burn with envy! Rarenum had it for sale on eBay for some time, but it was ridiculously expensive (at least for me). Do you have his books on beard tokens or the 1917 revolution tokens? What you (or Rudenko) said is interesting. It does appear that A3 coronation was immensely popular, much more so than N2's coronation (at least judging by tokens and coins). Any idea why? Was it the assassination of A2 that inspired this public sentiment? To answer your question, I've seen the copper one a couple of times. It does seem more elusive than the silver version. But I think the nickel one is the hardest to find, and in my opinion it is the best looking one. How does Rudenko rank it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Silver and Nickel jetons are rated R. Copper one is R1. I have all of Rudenko's books. Luckily they were presents from the author. Otherwise I would probably have only one. The fourth book is on Nurenberg counting tokens. I think you are correct about public's sentiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Just to finish up the A3 tokens there is also a death token out there. Presumably minted in Germany, comes in silver and aluminium. I only have the AL one, I do want to point out that while we are all pretty use to aluminium, in 1894 it was still a pretty exciting new metal, that was fairly costly to refine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I had one in silver. Looks like I am out of space for uploads. Can someone remind me how to free up space? Thanks,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I had one in silver. Looks like I am out of space for uploads. Can someone remind me how to free up space? Thanks,. You need to free up space by deleting images that you posted earlier (which sucks), or you can use OmniCoin or a 3rd party image hosting service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Here it is. You can see that the portrait is much more refined than on the aluminum one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Doesn't this profile actually look like a portrait of Peter on the silver coins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Let's see an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Have seen a few of these in silver in MiM's auction database, none in copper. Doesn't have Diakov's reference number, can't find it on Rudenko's website either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 First time I see it in copper as well. These usually described as follows: Медаль в честь князя М.Б.Барклая де Толли. Пруссия, Берлин, 1815 г. Медальерная мастерская Д.Лооса (лиц. ст. — внизу под венком: LOOS). Серебро, 9,21 г. Диаметр 28,8 мм. Сохранность отличная, зеркальное поле, красивая патина. СРМ# V.53. Иверсен# XXI.2 (т.1, с.23). Холодковский# XXVIII. Ашик, с. 282.# 2. Редкая. And yes, I was also thinking of poltina looking at your copper kopeck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 There was one in Copper/Bronze at the New Your Sale Auction XXIV in 2010. That's the only one I found, saw a dozen sale records for the silver one. The medallion is part of a set of famous generals of Napoleonic Wars, mostly Prussians. They've got Blücher, Gneisenau, York von Wartenburg, Tauentzien von Wittenberg, Karl Philipp Prince of Schwarzenberg. I guess Prussians really liked Barclay de Tolly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Got a new coin 1790 2 kopecks AM. How does it look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 WOW, looks good. Genuine, never polished. Congratulations Sigi . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Sometimes I feel like biting some of the coins you show Alex! Nice one, my congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMIS Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Very nice in deed. I am very impressed with your collection. Is there a general direction, or you are 'an equal opportunity' collector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Very nice in deed. I am very impressed with your collection. Is there a general direction, or you are 'an equal opportunity' collector? Thanks! The general guidelines are - Like + Afford. Based on those principles I just added a German coin, even though I don't collect them: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Sometimes I feel like biting some of the coins you show Alex! Nice one, my congratulations! Eugene, you are welcome to "beat" them, just not physically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMIS Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Thanks! The general guidelines are - Like + Afford. Based on those principles I just added a German coin, even though I don't collect them: Nice original taler. Gradable too. Although I think talers look better w/o slabs. With that principal sky is the limit for your collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted June 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 I'll try to post the medals in this thread, as they seem to be off topic in the eBay one. Also using a new host. Hope it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Do you know who is the designer of these. The portrait looks very nice. It has a feel that it was made very late in 18 century or even later... The figure of Cathrine II is very controversial, I am not exactly found of her. I think she was very lucky that the economy was prepared for someone like her to be a ruler, and that's thanks to Anna and Elizabeth. Nonetheless, the medals and the tokens are very nice, it's interesting to know who was the engraver-designer. They are very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted June 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 The first portrait is by Iaeger, the second by Bobrovshikov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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