Morgan 1884-O with dieclashing |
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Morgan 1884-O with dieclashing |
Jun 17 2007, 08:47 PM
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![]() Errors, just like me! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 519 Joined: 12-September 06 From: Harelbeke, Belgium Member No.: 1,454 |
Do you guys know which VAM would fit with this one?
I checked all the ones that are posted on Vamworld, but mine doesn't seem to be there. Here are some pics: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What would you grade this one? (Total beginner on US-coins, so help me out And last but not least, what would the value be? Regards, Jos |
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Jun 17 2007, 09:44 PM
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![]() go cowboys!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 21-May 07 From: washington court house ohio Member No.: 3,339 |
wow nice coin!!!
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Jun 17 2007, 09:57 PM
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I'm with stupid. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,018 Joined: 31-January 06 Member No.: 760 |
A lot of coins I have are die clashes but not all are vams. That being said I think you have a 23A Looks like a die break above the cap on your picture. (A 23a does have die clashes also.)
(Edit) But I can't tell if there is doubling on the 1-4 (Lately though I have been noticing a lot of inconsistencies at VAMWorld. Wrong pictures and attributes posted. ) |
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Jun 18 2007, 05:45 AM
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![]() Uhhh....? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,731 Joined: 6-April 06 From: York, PA Member No.: 949 |
I'm not sure of the Vam listing with different dates, but this is caused from clashed dies. Basically it's the same as the Vam-4 I had when I had an 1883-CC morgan. It's not uncommon on most date morgans, but a very neat variety!
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Jun 18 2007, 06:12 PM
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![]() Errors, just like me! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 519 Joined: 12-September 06 From: Harelbeke, Belgium Member No.: 1,454 |
It seems I have the habit of choosing the more difficult Morgans, when it comes to attributing the VAM. I didn't expect that this one, with these heavy dieclashtraces, would be another one like that.
That line above the head, is a really fine diecrack. I thought it was only a scratch. Too bad there's that scratch on the ear though I found some more dieclashing behind the head, which is logical when you have those heavy clashes on the corresponding other side. ![]() ![]() Thanks for your help, guys! Regards, Jos |
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Jun 18 2007, 11:54 PM
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![]() Darkslider ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 15-November 05 Member No.: 532 |
There won't be a VAM for the clash unless there is letter transfer. More likely there will be a VAM associated with the mint mark. Show us a nice close up, and I'll see if I can find it.
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Jun 19 2007, 12:17 AM
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![]() Uhhh....? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,731 Joined: 6-April 06 From: York, PA Member No.: 949 |
The areas you see clashed on the rev are liberty's cap, and on the obv is the wreath below the eagle.
I know this image isn't that great but it shows the most obvious clash mark beside the eagle, and how it fits into liberty's cap.
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Jun 19 2007, 04:12 AM
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I'm with stupid. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,018 Joined: 31-January 06 Member No.: 760 |
I have a strong double clashed die 1889. But that part does not make it a vam. But it does have Polish lines in the liberty, cotton bolls, nose, and the doubled ear. Also die chips in date. Making it a vam 40.
Heres a couple 1884 O's for you. 1884 O Certified NGC struck thru ![]() 1884 o a dollar Vam 13 O over O mint mark centered high
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Jun 19 2007, 07:29 AM
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![]() Errors, just like me! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 519 Joined: 12-September 06 From: Harelbeke, Belgium Member No.: 1,454 |
It's definetly 23A.
The 1 and 4 are indeed doubled. I have made a closeup of the mintmark too, but I don't see anything special there. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Regards, Jos |
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Jun 19 2007, 10:06 AM
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![]() go cowboys!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 21-May 07 From: washington court house ohio Member No.: 3,339 |
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Jun 20 2007, 09:29 PM
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![]() Errors, just like me! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 519 Joined: 12-September 06 From: Harelbeke, Belgium Member No.: 1,454 |
If you consider the VAM and the condition, what value would this one have then?
Regards, Jos |
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Jun 20 2007, 10:53 PM
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I'm with stupid. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,018 Joined: 31-January 06 Member No.: 760 |
Unless they are listed in the redbook or one of the top 100 or hot 50 most are pretty much normal price for the year and mint.
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Jun 21 2007, 01:49 AM
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Hey that first one looked like it was clean with a clothe
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